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SECS/GEM

Nancy J Dawdy

#15419

SECS/GEM | 15 June, 1998

Would anybody like to share experiences with adding and using the SECS/GEM interface on a multi-vendor line(DEK,FUJI,PANASONIC, UNIVERSAL,BTU)???

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Jon Medernach

#15424

Re: SECS/GEM what EXACTLY do you want? | 15 June, 1998

As an equipment vendor (Panasonic Create group)I am extremely interested in GEM/SECS. It is really a nebulous concept. Everyone I talk to wants something different but it's all lumped under GEM/SECS! I ask a simple question. What do you want it to do? The answer I get is "This" and a 40 pound document is thrown in front of me. Personaly, I think the thing is out of control(To many cooks, if you know what I mean) As a manufacture I ask you, in simple terms, What would you like us to provide? All machines are capable of providing their process parameters. If you had access to this data via a network you could manipulate the data you choose as you wish, is this adequate? I would be interest in all comments. Thanks | Would anybody like to share experiences with adding and using the | SECS/GEM interface on a multi-vendor line(DEK,FUJI,PANASONIC, | UNIVERSAL,BTU)???

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Nancy J Dawdy

#15425

SECS/GEM this is what I want | 16 June, 1998

| As an equipment vendor (Panasonic Create group)I am extremely interested in GEM/SECS. It is really a nebulous concept. Everyone I talk to wants something different but it's all lumped under GEM/SECS! I ask a simple question. What do you want it to do? The answer I get is "This" and a 40 pound document is thrown in front of me. Personaly, I think the thing is out of control(To many cooks, if you know what I mean) As a manufacture I ask you, in simple terms, What would you like us to provide? All machines are capable of providing their process parameters. If you had access to this data via a network you could manipulate the data you choose as you wish, is this adequate? I would be interest in all comments. Thanks | | Would anybody like to share experiences with adding and using the | | SECS/GEM interface on a multi-vendor line(DEK,FUJI,PANASONIC, | | UNIVERSAL,BTU)??? What I am hoping to eventually get out of the SECS/GEM interface is an easy way(??) to connect new machines to a data storage/gathering system and subsequently analyze process and product data. Eventually I hope to be able to display selected process/product information on a web page.

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M. Faisal Pandit

#15423

Re: SECS/GEM | 16 June, 1998

Nancy, Panasonic's CIM software product, PanaPRO, provides Line Management Functionality for a Multi-Vendor line. This product currently supports Universal, Fuji's and MPM's. It communicates with Universal's and MPM's via SECSII-GEM protocol.

Feel free to contact me if you need any additional information. Thanks, M. Faisal Pandit Software Development Manager Panasonic Factory Automation

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Dan Perkins

#15426

Re: SECS/GEM this is what I want | 23 June, 1998

Nancy, I am a sales engineer for UniCam Software. UniCam has a new software tool called "Production Monitor", it connects to SMT equipment, monitors, collects and analyzes machine data. If you are looking to automate line utilization, cycly time, part scrap calculations. Or if you just want to know what's going on at the factory, line or machine level, its a great tool. Check out our Website for more info.

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smd

#15422

Re: SECS/GEM | 29 June, 1998

| Would anybody like to share experiences with adding and using the | SECS/GEM interface on a multi-vendor line(DEK,FUJI,PANASONIC, | UNIVERSAL,BTU)??? I still don't quite understand how to use this interface. Can someone explain it? Will someone explain it? I have a multi-vendor line with a DEK 265, Philips P&P, and Electrovert reflow. How can this help me? Or can it? We have such problems monitoring what's going on with the equipment. We have plenty of Lotus Notes databases for operators to record information (part of our ISO 9002 process) but they either won't do it or won't do it acurately. Wave/wash (Electrovert equip) is the worst area. Que voulez vous?

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Coogan

#15421

Re: SECS/GEM | 29 June, 1998

GEM (Generic Equipment Model) and SECS (Semiconductor Equipment Communications Standard)were developed to provide an standard communications protocal for equipment of different manufacturers. However, although the machines connected through GEM "talk the same language", they do not know "what to talk about" unless they are connected to a host system (for lack of a better term). The software in these host systems are developed to utilize GEM/SECS in a manner that is typically unique to the user (i.e. production environment and needs). Unless your company has expertise in this field, it makes sense to go to a vendor that specializes in GEM host development. A good one is GW Associates in California (internet: gwa.com). But there are many others. GEM is growing in importance. Recently, NEMI (National Electronics Manufacturers Initiative) voted GEM/SECS as the pathway for the future of "plug and play" SMT equipment. John Coogan

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Azman

#15420

Re: SECS/GEM | 7 July, 1998

Anybody has experienced dealing with GEM for Siemens Siplace?

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