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Sep 20, 2006 |
... VOC free, as operation HOURS before wave solder I am considering moving my spray fluxer into a completely separate operation. Has anybody any comments of sraying VOC free flux on boards, then putting them in a drier/holding rack for possibly say overnight, then running them through wave solder? We are a low volume high mix shop using wave solder pallets. My original plan is to move the spray fluxer ahead of but inline and continuous with the wave solder conveyor, but then wondered maybe we could ...
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May 2, 2006 |
Wave solder pallets Howdy all. The question that I have is on wave solder pallets. I'm getting quite a bit of flux trapped on the pcb where it contacts the wave solder pallet. I have an appropriate profile for my assemblies, The flux that i use is Kester 920-CXF No Clean, I wont be changing this flux for quite a while. How do all of you deal with flux being trapped under the wave solder pallet and not burning off? Thanks much. Jay Brower
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Aug 11, 2005 |
Manncorp Wave Solder Can anybody provide any insight to the quality of Manncorp's wave solder machines? I'm looking to go Pb free. I'm also considering Technical Devices wave solder, which is significantly more expensive and NovaStar wave solder machines ...
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Jan 31, 2002 |
Wave Solder Troubleshooting chart Does anyone out there have a wave solder troubleshooting chart in electronic form they could e-mail me? I'm about to crank up a wave solder machine here, and the chart I got several jobs ago is missing in action. Also, if anyone remembers using an Electrovert Minipak 300 bench top machine, and remembers any particular maintenance problems I would appreciate the warnings. We got the machine used, with no manuals or schematics. I've set up wave solder machines ...
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Oct 15, 2001 |
Through-hole/SM mix Before this wave solder pallet salesman blather gets too far out-of-control, let�s stop for a minute. The three major approaches you have are: 1 SELECTIVE SOLDERING: Using: * Specialty wave soldering machine to solder specific areas of a board * Peculiar wave solder pallet on a standard wave solder machine to allow soldering specific areas, while block other areas from contact with the wave. 2 INTRUSIVE REFLOW: Using: * Paste printed on PTH pads and then reflow soldered ...
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Oct 26, 1998 |
Wave Solder Fluxing We have installed a Sonoflux atomized mist fluxing unit (Model 9500)on our Future 1 wave solder machine. We are concerned that the retrofitting of this unit may not have been appropriate for our equipment, as we are now experiencing many problems with flux volume, uniform application, ect. As we understand it, the Sonoflux unit is to be place ahead of the wave solder machine, but because of the height of the conveyor on the Hollis machine, this is impossible. The technician ...
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May 25, 2009 |
solder skips in chip wave on a NU/ERA wave solder Hello !! I have a problem with my wave solder oven, in one of the products we made has connectors on one side of the pcb and in the other one has SMT components the process is kinda tricky on the SMT components we use an adhesive and put to the reflow oven to cure,after that we put the connectors on the opposite side of the SMT components, then is taken to the wave solder where we use the chip wave and solder wave to solder the components and the ...
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Sep 29, 2008 |
Steps to Convert SAC305 Wave Solder Pot to SN100C I was wondering if someone could tell me the steps they went through to convert a SAC305 Wave Solder pot over to SN100C. I'm having wave solder problems with SAC305 and I'm considering a change to SN100C. Didn't know if it was a -in replacement or not. Please let me know ...
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Oct 25, 2007 |
Wave Solder - Small production - Opinion Hello, I'm considering to buy my first wave solder machine. We have small production, so we need an small machine, like bechtop wave solder machines. I have read that small machines as Novastar 8S, 12S, has some problems with complex PCB boards. Our PCB are 4 layers (170 x 290 mm). I�m thinking in ERSA ETS250. Does anyone know about the quality of ERSA machines? Any recommendation? Thanks ...
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Jul 5, 2007 |
... capability study The variables to study: * Dwell Time * Contact Length * Conveyor Speed * Parallelism * Top-side Substrate Temperature Before wave * Solder Pot temperature All of these variables are inter-related (ie changing one variable will affect another), and you'll need some type of method to measure them. Search the fine archives - Keywords: wave solder process capability, wave solder SPC, waverider, wave optimizer, malcom dip tester, glass plate There's been much discussion on this topic ...
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Dec 11, 2006 |
... WAVE SOLDER FLUX EVALUATION Author : Michael Havener Author Company : Benchmark Electronics, Inc Date : 09/25/2005 Conference : SMTA International Abstract : The European Union�s deadline to ban lead in electronic products is quickly approaching. To meet the challenges of lead-free soldering, a method to evaluate the performance of lead-free wave solder fluxes will be explored. Identifying the optimal water-soluble and no-clean chemistries is the objective of this testing. Existing wave solder ...
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May 16, 2006 |
... with corrosion of your stainless steel workings of your pump. Last I looked changing a wave solder pot over to nitrated coating for electrovert was in the neighborhood of 18-20K. I'm not a betting man but I'd give your wave solder pot 6 months at best. Hope that if you go with the sacx you get longer life, but I wouldn't bet on it. Personally I'm going with the sn100c. No change in my wave solder pot except a good purge with tin and no need to keep buying wave components as they get eaten by the ...
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Nov 21, 2005 |
No solder and solder bridge after Wave solder machine Go to this link for a nice tool for wave solder process troubleshooting: http://www.speedlinetech.com/news_publications/application-notes.aspx?OnId=5 Look for "Wave Solder Troubleshooting Wizard" If you have an Electrovert machine, contact applications support out of the factory +1-573-346-3341 ...
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Aug 11, 2005 |
SWITCHING OF WAVE SOLDER MACHINE FROM LEADED TO NO-LEAD MY COMPANY HAS AN OLD HOLLIS WAVE SOLDER MACHINE THAT WE HAVE USED LEADED SOLDER IN FOR YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT THE FOLLOWING: 1.CAN THIS WAVE SOLDER MACHINE BE "DE-LEADED" IN ORDER TO USE LEAD FREE SOLDER? 2. WHAT WOULD THE COST BE? 3. NAME OF A COMPANY THAT COULD DO THIS FOR US ...
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Jul 27, 2005 |
Wave solder pallets: lead and lead-free process Hi everybody, We have wave solder fixtures made of Durapol and multiple wave solder machines. Most likely we�ll use the same pallets for either tin-lead or lead-free solder for a while (of course after washing the pallets). Should we test the pallets for lead absorption before running them on lead-free solder? Any suggestions for labs to perform the test, if needed? Thanks a lot!! Hiram
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Jun 28, 2005 |
... of Hours before stainless Wave solder damaged by Lead Free? I'm looking for REAL data about how many hours of Lead Free (SAC) alloy run time it takes to really deteriorate or damage a stainless wave solder pot. Realistically if I TIN purge my wave solder pot, how long will it take to be damaged beyond use or repair? There are photos around of the damage, and marketing fluff on the subject, but I have never heard anybody say something like 100hrs, or 1500 hrs etc
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Jan 12, 2005 |
Trouble with wave solder pallet Help!! Just got some new wave solder pallets in house. The pallets are 12 by 8 inches solid composite, with only two 1/2 inch by 1 inch spots cut out for the connectors. When they go over the wave, the solder wants to cling to the bottom of the pallet instead of falling back into the solder pot which causes molten solder to cascade over the side of the pot onto the bed of the wave solder machine. The fixture house says they have never heard of this before. Has ...
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Jul 27, 2004 |
Polystyrene Caps through wave solder Hello, Is it possible to put polystyrene caps through the wave solder process ? We have always hand soldered these as temperature sensitive parts but would rather include them with other PTH parts through the wave solder. Manufacturer was little help and could only say don't exceed 240degC for 4 seconds ...
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Aug 11, 2003 |
Wave Solder Profiles Our old friend Bob Willis posted the best procedure for determining wave solder recipes at his site [ http://www.bobwillis.co.uk ]. In the "Download" section, look for "Setting up Wave Soldering System (Plain Text Format)". It was written, last we knew, for non-nc fluxes. So, it will be a good starting point for your task, but require tailoring to the specifics of your operation. Your flux and wave solder ...
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Jul 30, 2003 |
Wave Solder Forum?? I agree that is a good idea. However, I wonder if there is enough activity to warrant new forums (wave solder and/or through hole)? I did searches for wave solder and through hole over the past 90 days and found 38 and 12 posts respectively out of 941 total ...
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Nov 11, 2002 |
smt components vs. wave solder Like Mark, I'm guessing your problem is with SMT parts on the top side, the solder is re-melting and some of the parts are moving around during when the board is being wave soldered. When I had some training on thru hole wave soldering way back when, the target was 3 seconds of contact with solder when you wave solder. If the component leads have more than 3 seconds of contact, the top side of the board might get hot enough to reflow the solder joints on SMT parts ...
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Nov 27, 2001 |
Solder Balls @ the Wave Solder Process Solder balls on the topside of our wave solder boards is a real issue. We have found that during the wave solder process, solder will enter through the via holes in the form of solder balls. It seems to be related to flux captured in the vias and once the wave hits there is a splattering effect. The problem seems to be greater at times. I have asked design for some options with these plated through holes but haven't found any. The vias are used as test ...
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Jun 19, 1998 |
Hollis Future 1 wave solder fingers I am looking for alternate suppliers of Hollis wave solder fingers other than Speedline(Electrovert) The Model and S/N of the wave solder is Model 207944 Serial # F11132 Please let me know if you are a vendor or know of a vendor. Your help would be greatly appreciated ...
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Mar 9, 1999 |
Wave Soldering 14 and 16 Pin SOICs We will wave solder a board with SOIC14 and SOIC16 parts on the bottom. It has been difficult to find any specific wave solder process recommendations from manufacturers of the SOICs. The pad geometry utilizes theiving pads on both sides to reduce bridging. Can anyone share their experience in setting up the wave solder process to avoid thermal damage to the part. What is the optimal temperature profile for wave soldering such components? My optimal profile is ...
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Nov 3, 2000 |
Wave Solder Processs Control Has anybody done an evaluation on Wave Solder Process Control Modules? I am looking at the ECD WaveRIDER or the Wave Solder Optimizer to try and implement process control on our wave soldering operations. Which is better for controlling the process or is there something better out there. Thanks ...
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Oct 22, 2007 |
Cleanning no clean residu Bruno The real question about your troop using Kester 951 wave solder flux on boards is: how is the flux applied and controlled. See, when you apply this flux with your wave solder fluxer, it is ideally applied in a metered fashion with your fluxer. Next, as the board is processed through the machine, it brings the flux to the proper activation temperature. These two actions, precise amount and proper heater, are assumed conditions of low residue soldering. In other ...
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Mar 1, 2007 |
Wave Solder My own personal "unwritten rule" has always been - no more that 3 times. Anymore than once, I'm not sure what the implications are. If you think about the mechanics of wave solder. It's around 200 Deg. F of preheat, and then immersed in 480 to 500 deg. F of molten solder for about 3-5 seconds (depending on your configuration and profile). Components and Boards undergoing this more than twice doesn't sound appealing. I doubt any studies have been done on this, and I'm sure there's a ...
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Feb 28, 2007 |
Pb-Free Wave Solder Advice So It happens that we are having an installation crew here working on our second wave solder machine. It is a Vitronics Soltec that we bought for lead free processing. I personally used Ekra and vitronics and Electrovert at other companies. I believe the you get what you pay for and the service, trainig and support you get from Vitronics tipped the scales in their favor fo us. I have seen an Selective Solder mchine ( maybe 6745 model ? small footprint ) equipped with a ...
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May 9, 2005 |
... in place where they do not run crystals through their wave solder process. From my previous work experience, there was never a case where we would not wave solder something, especially crystals. The customer this process was created for requested that crystals be hand soldered as opposed to waved, so this has carried over to all new customers as a general process. Is there any reason why crystals would not be run through the wave solder process? All of my experience is with SMT equipment, and I ...
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Aug 21, 2003 |
... of the OSHA lead Standard.� The proper safe way to handle this process is as follows. Using a portable dross handling system that has HEPA filtration, you bring this type of system upto the wave solder machine. The ventilation system on the wave solder machine must remain on. You open the wave solder access door and position the dross handling system next to it, turn on the HEPA vacuum system and then open the dross handling system cover. As you ladle out the dross from the wave and dump it ...
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Oct 22, 1998 |
... Does your company use active components in the wave solder process? | | If so, what types of packages do you allow? | | What process do you use to qualify for this application? | | Are there any special restrictions utilized? (eg. bakeout prior to wave solder, maintaining certain preheat to solder temperature deltas, etc.) | | Any other information that may be pertinent? | | Thanks for your help in this matter. | | Jeff Long | Jeff, We wave solder SOT's & SOIC's all the time. I've been making ...
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Nov 1, 2000 |
Wave solder Carrier we have a variety of products which we build and manufacture and build on our site, 90% of which go over the wave solder. What I would like to know is when designing a WSC how do I know what the correct angle of the aperture is in relation to the wave, to achieve maximum yields for both selective and open aperture carriers. I'm pretty confident that the problems we are seeing at the moment, the majority of these colud be eradicated or minimised if the aperture was cut to the ...
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Apr 1, 2010 |
Solder dross / voids in our wave solder process Hi, My name is Branden Spencer and I am a jr. engineer at TTM technologies. We are currently having and issue with our wave solder process. We are getting what looks like either solder dross or voiding in our solder joints (through hole and SMT). We are trying to determine what the actual issue is. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Feb 26, 2010 |
... cut and clinch unit doing it's thing under the board while it is being assembled. With the mascot system component prep is much more involved and components will still fall out or lift during wave solder process. And with the mascot systems you still need to trim leads after wave solder also which is known to fracture solder joints and is simply not allowed in high reliability assemblies. The CS-400E eliminates costly lead prep and trimming and enhances quality so the ROI for such a machine is ...
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Feb 3, 2010 |
Wave solder cleaning gloves I am just wondering what other people are using as far as gloves when cleaning the dross out of the wave solder pot. We currently are using welding gloves, but the operators say that they are too big and bulky. Does anyone have any suggestions on what type to be using ...
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Jan 27, 2010 |
Reducing Wave solder DeltaT Our products are a mixed technology; with both surface mount components solder side and through-hole top side, in addition to massive heat sink assemblies. We have been using your SN100C solder in our wave solder process with Multicore MFR301 Flux since 2005 with good results. My goal at the moment is to reduce the delta T for bottom side components from 80-100C down to 60-80C. First: What can be done to reduce or eliminate the dead zone (or gap) between the preheat ...
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Dec 5, 2009 |
BOTTOM SIDE CHIP COMP FALLEN OFF IN WAVE SOLDER Solder paste & reflow the Bottom side.Use wave solder pallet to isolate the soldered components ...
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Sep 10, 2009 |
PCB residue after wave solder This has some good iinformation for wave solder defects... http://www.trafalgar2.com/troubleshooter/wave_soldering.htm
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Sep 2, 2009 |
Leaking Wave Solder Pot Electrovert Stainless/SN100C Any suggestions/experience in repairing an old electrovert stainless wave solder pot? We have been running SN100C in this pot for a few years, and it developed a small leak along the weld in one corner. I am wondering of the best repair methods, and or ways to determine if other areas are CLOSE to leaking and should be built up while we have it empty. Pete
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Jul 18, 2009 |
Floor protection Did you mill your floor before applying the epoxy? All the ESD materials suppliers provide mats that are wave solder heat and materials resistant. ESD Floor Mat, Wave solder machine * All-Spec Industries; 5228 US Hwy 421 N.; Wilmington, NC 28401; 800-537-0351 all-spec.com * Desco; 3651 Walnut Ave, Chino, CA 91710; 909-627-8178 desco.com Service@Desco.com * Web search will provide additional suppliers ...
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May 10, 2009 |
... PBB, PBDE, Cd) Q2: Is this chemical will effect the content of Lead free solder? A2: It's possible that the metals that comprise the stainless steel probe on your thermometer could leach into the solder in your wave solder pot. This risk could be counter balanced by: * Many wave solder pots are composed of stainless steel. So, maybe this potential for leaching is not an issue. * Relatively casual use of your thermometer probably won't have a significant effect even if metals leach from the probe ...
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May 5, 2009 |
Wave solder: Debridging tool Hi all, Just wondering if somebody is using the debridging tool (Vitronics) on the wave solder machine succesfully with SN100C. After testing for a while, my conclusion is to not even try....does not work...but maybe I am wrong? Thanks for your feedback, George
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Apr 22, 2009 |
PB-Free Wave Soldering Service Provider Quick Question! We have an assembly that we're building for a customer that will have to be soldered via a Lead-Free Wave Solder. We do not currently have a Lead-Free Wave Solder in house. Does anyone know of a company that may be able to provide this service at a reasonable rate? It's 45 pieces. And the assemblies would be provided built complete, holes masked, they would only need to be Wave Soldered, and inspected. (Looking to have solder joints only ...
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Dec 24, 2008 |
... The wire cored solder for hand soldering flows good and makes very good solder joints. The SN100C in the wave solder machine also works very good. We use SAC305 paste for SMT Lead free and then use the Sn100C for all wave and hand Lead free soldering on the same boards. Our SN100C supplier is AIM Solders. The AIM SN100C is lower cost than the SAC305 for use in the wave solder machine and the wire cored solder is not much more than Sn63 Tin/Lead solder. We use the SN100C on Lead free HASL ...
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Sep 9, 2008 |
D Connectors on both sides We are quoting a job that has about 30 50 pin D connectors on one side of the board, and about 10 on the other side. Barring any stroke of genius, we would wave solder one side, and hand solder the other side. Does anyone have any suggestions on how we could wave solder both sides? Thanks
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Aug 26, 2008 |
Cleaning Wave solder fingers and chain What brand of flux and wave solder machine are you using? George
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Aug 26, 2008 |
Cleaning Wave solder fingers and chain The chain and fingers for our Wave solder is getting a large amount of residue from the flux (high dissolved solids) we are using. Any recommendations for products that can clean polymerized flux ...
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Aug 21, 2008 |
Wave solder fingers- HELP! Hi, Have you been able to find nate source of wave soldering fingers?I have just started this company and we carry technical devices wave solder finger. Each made of 100% pure titanium and 0.1mm thicker. If you need to try one out of my products .please let me know . Thanks Tam phone# 408-987-1131 Fax#408-493-4249
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Jul 17, 2008 |
... temperature & dwell time * The most extensive study ever conducted on wave solder process control, involving 384 wave machines worldwide, found 76% of all wave machines running boards disparallel through the solder wave. 84% of the plants that corrected their disparallelism problem reported what they condsidered significant improvement in board quality the day the correction was made. [New Frontiers in Wave Solder Optimization: Daily Measurement of Parallelism Will Transform Your Board Quality ...
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Jun 25, 2008 |
Cleaning wave solder pallets. Our wave solder pallets are cleaned via our inline board washing machine ...
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