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Programming Mydata				Jack McNally	08/24/09
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	Programming Mydata			Jack McNally	08/26/09
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	Programming Mydata			Jack McNally	08/28/09
Programming Mydata				Ed Mentzer	08/28/09
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Date: August 24, 2009 02:10 PM
Author: Jack McNally  
Subject: Programming Mydata

Does anyone know of a more economical alternative to Aegis Circuitcam for programming Mydata machines?
Thanks,

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Date: August 24, 2009 04:58 PM
Author: robgd3  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Jack,

Well, there's always doing it locally on the machine.

There's also an old excel macro floating around that will help...it takes the x,y,theta information, and generates a pick and place program. However, we never had much luck with it here; and, in past lives, there was almost more pain with that than there was programming manually. Though, in fairness, I must say that I know some people that have been successful using it.

We've just recently invested in Circuitcam; and, in my mind, it's been worth every penny. We only had one machine for awhile, and being able to program while the machine was running a different job was a huge advantage. You can push on the sales people a bit, we managed to get it at a pretty large discount from the list price.

Prior to making the investment in Circuitcam, we used to outsource some of the programming to someone that used Circuitcam. That at least allowed us to turn a fast program for a quick turn job that we couldn't do by hand.


cheers
..rob

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Date: August 25, 2009 01:33 AM
Author: Radek  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Hi Jack,
we have in our comapany My15 and MY9. Both machines we programming almost daily only in excell. First manually, second with excell macro. Both alternative are almost camparable. It´s depending on amount of SMD parts and skills.

Radek


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Date: August 26, 2009 02:09 PM
Author: Jack McNally  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Thanks Rob. We are getting very high pricing from Aegis. Have you heard of Prontoplace by Unisoft? They had an advertisement on the smtnet website so we are doing a web demo on Thurs.


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Date: August 27, 2009 08:59 AM
Author: robgd3  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Jack,

I've heard of it, and reviewed their website; but that's about the limit of my exposure.

I'd be interested in impressions after the web demo. I'm assuming you have some knowledge/exposure to Circuitcam.

If you'd like to contact me off the site, we could discuss costs, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to post that info out here for everyone.

cheers
..rob


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Date: August 27, 2009 10:14 AM
Author: Jack McNally  
Subject: Programming Mydata


> Jack,
>
> I've heard of it, and reviewed their
> website; but that's about the limit of my
> exposure.
>
> I'd be interested in impressions
> after the web demo. I'm assuming you have some
> knowledge/exposure to Circuitcam.
>
> If you'd
> like to contact me off the site, we could discuss
> costs, etc. I don't think it's appropriate to
> post that info out here for
> everyone.
>
> cheers ..rob

Ok Rob, thanks!

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Date: August 28, 2009 01:00 PM
Author: jamyboy  
Subject: Programming Mydata


In my past I have used Circuit Cam with great results but now we are using the more economical Pronto place. It is not as elaborate as Circuit Cam but it is a really quick way to generate programs for the Mydata machine. Pronto Place has some unique features that make it in our minds a better choice than Circuit Cam but only because it fits our small business model. Support from Unisoft is excellent. Good luck

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Date: August 28, 2009 01:55 PM
Author: Jack McNally  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Thanks for the feedback!

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Date: August 28, 2009 07:15 PM
Author: Ed Mentzer  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Have you used the EXCEL MACRO that MYDATA used to give out at no cost?

We have been using the MACRO for 9 years and it is very good. Contact me if you are interested in the EXCEL MACRO.

I can usualy edit the pick and place data with macro for a board with 500+ parts in about 40 minutes. When we were using CircuitCAM it took the operator 2 days to do the same thing.

We have CircuitCAM but find it hard to use. We are a small EMS and I cannot afford one person to only run CircuitCAM. I found the coments about UNIFAB interesting.

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Date: August 31, 2009 09:27 AM
Author: jamyboy  
Subject: Programming Mydata


With Pronto Place I can generate a Mydata program and automatically merge an Excel bom in about 20 seconds. Takes longer if I need to produce assembly doxs...but still faster than Circuit Cam...have used the Mydata macro in the past also, but it doesnt merge the bom for you and that takes time and ofcourse you could make a mistake...

Good Luck....




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Date: September 01, 2009 07:31 AM
Author: josh  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Also check with the Valor guys they support Mydata from simple outputs to full optimisation/part generation etc. But if your budget limited then maybe not best fit...but best to chat to them and see if can squeeze abit !!!

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Date: November 06, 2009 04:20 PM
Author: SBP100  
Subject: Programming Mydata


I've speced in CircuitCAM at 3 different company's since 1996 and wouldn't use anything else. When we program our Mydata using CAD data within 5 minutes we have a program + a couple more minutes to verify the color visual aids by station.
When we receive gerber data it will take longer within a hour or 2 if there are 250+ components and double-sided including visual aids.
We output the program from Aegis to the Mydata over our intranet. Proof the program and start running.

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Date: November 09, 2009 12:12 PM
Author: MCMark  
Subject: Programming Mydata


Same here, I've been programming Mydata placement machines using CircuitCAM since 1999, at 2 companies. With an ASCII CAD file imported and simple BOM scrubbing, we can get programs directly output to our Mydatas in less than 5 minutes. Developing assembly instructions and visual aids takes longer of course, but nothing I know of compares in speed and accuracy, and will continue to use CircuitCAM and highly recommend it.

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Date: November 09, 2009 02:51 PM
Author: josh  
Subject: Programming Mydata


vPlan from Valor also is strong with Mydata, from general validated, scubbed, centroid corrected, rotation corrected outputs (same sort of times as mentioned with Aegis users to full optimistation part data generation on demand....(Aegis can not offer this....)

If you look at Aegis, should look at vPlan too and compare price performance!!!

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Date: November 10, 2009 05:01 PM
Author: JJUNE  
Subject: Programming Mydata


2 days?? WOW! Here at our location, with MyData programming it takes on average for new projects a little over an hour with over 350 new parts. We use Aegis for both our offline programming as well as our MES and definitely have been happy with them during the last year with both support and troubleshooting issues with our location. We are now furthering our research with automating our smart feeders and lot control down to reference designators.

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Date: November 14, 2009 07:27 PM
Author: CASMT  
Subject: Programming Mydata


I have been programming Mydata for years. Aegis is the most flexible. You can program every field or you can do just the basics and finish it at the machine. I have used Valor but it wants to control everything, it dumps the databases every time you generate the program. Not good if you are making changes at the machine. If you’re on a budget you can use any text editor you’re comfortable with. Mydata gives you the format in the documentation.

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Author: sporskok  
Subject: Programming Mydata


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Author: heba66  
Subject: Programming Mydata


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Date: November 18, 2009 03:10 PM
Author: josh  
Subject: Programming Mydata


> I have been programming Mydata for years. Aegis
> is the most flexible. You can program every field
> or you can do just the basics and finish it at
> the machine. I have used Valor but it wants to
> control everything, it dumps the databases every
> time you generate the program. Not good if you
> are making changes at the machine. If you’re on
> a budget you can use any text editor you’re
> comfortable with. Mydata gives you the format in
> the documentation.

I disagree on Valor, you may be refering to T5K , vPlan is different system and does not dump entire DB etc. It exports parts required by the Job only....you can read in on regular basis the Mydata DB to allow auto link of parts to program.

Also have seen AutoPart generation where it can make the parts on demand if they do not exist !!! - All part data is generated saving alot of time getting a new job started.

They offer Basic Export to full optimisation-mag placement, grouping and Auto parts Generation.

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