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PWH

#39011

Universal Advantis | 12 January, 2006

I'm looking at buying a Universal Advantis with a Flex Jet head on it. Any users out there who can give me real numbers for placement rates?

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JAX

#39013

Universal Advantis | 12 January, 2006

A few things that will determine the speed.

Camera Questions: Will the parts use the "On-The-Head" or "Upward-Looking" camera's? If "Upward-Looking", will it be Standard or Digital?

Feeder Questions: Will you use pnuematic, low-cost electric, or precision pro feeders?

General Questions: Will the machine be the line or part of a multiple machine line? What is the component mix of the products you run?

If you just want a number: small parts : 11K-12K medium parts : 8K-9K large parts : 5K-6K

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Cmiller

#39017

Universal Advantis | 12 January, 2006

I would agree with JAX for a general estimate. If you have a few specific boards Universal can put them in a simulator and give you pretty close estimates. I would reccomend you go to thier NY facility and actually run some boards and get to know the people there. We bought one about 5 months ago. The accuracy on picks and placements is exceptional and all the people I have delt with have treated us in a manner that was beyond my expectations. You may also want to look at a AC-30. If your component range is a fit with that machine, it is much faster. We have both in line. There is a video clip of our AC-30 running on adltech.com if your interested in seeing it running. (I only mention this because last I knew, Universal does not have a clip on thier site)

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PWH

#39020

Universal Advantis | 12 January, 2006

Thanks JAX and Cmiller. I have spec'd "on the head" optics 2.6 mpp. No upward cameras but might "wire" it for magellan digital for future add-on. Will be buying/using prec. pro. feeders but might have to use some old GSM pneumatics from time to time as needed. This is a multi. machine line. The intent of this machine is to run the smaller parts. Cmiller - that video is pretty cool - thanks! Not sure if I want to go with lightning head as I could see this machine doing more flexible jobs/larger parts down the road - but, still thinking on all this...

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Cmiller

#39021

Universal Advantis | 12 January, 2006

The lightning head will place parts up to 30mm square but there is a height restriction and it will only pick from tape feeders, no trays, no vibes. It will put down QFP's at full speed and the placements are dead on.

I think you need an optional power supply on the AC-72 if you want to use the old feeders. They will be too slow to put on the AC-30 though. The precision Pro feeders work great.

Good Luck!!

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GEB

#39138

Universal Advantis | 17 January, 2006

Wow that machine is fast!!! Our GSM places at seconds per component rather than components per sec.

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PWH

#39178

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

Advantis 8mm feeders -

I intend to buy all prec. pro. feeders intitially. Is it advisable to buy all dual lane 8mm or do I need single lane 8mm mixed in as well for any reason?

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Cmiller

#39179

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

You should not need any single lane 8mm feeders.

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PWH

#39180

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

Dual lane 8mm prec. pro feeders are capable of being set for 2mm or 4mm index, correct?

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adlsmt

#39182

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

Yep, just the push of a button.

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adlsmt

#39184

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

FYI, if you are using 13" reels, for 8mm parts, you need a different feeder with a larger reel holder. If you get the larger reel holder and if you are using quick change carts, you need the cart for that type of feeder as they also make one that does not have as much clearance on the bottom. In either case you should just get the cart set up for the larger reel holder because it will work with both.

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PWH

#39193

Universal Advantis | 18 January, 2006

Cool - thanks all. We use 99% 7" reels but good to know about the feeder carts.

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#39411

Universal Advantis | 31 January, 2006

PWH

FYI...All current cart shipments are 13" reel compatible. A few single lane 8mm feeders is not a bad thing to have along with the 7" DL, as they can handle both.

T.Vick UIC

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PWH

#39413

Universal Advantis | 31 January, 2006

Thanks - FYI we just bought one of these from you today. P.O.'s on its way!

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Cmiller

#39467

Universal Advantis | 2 February, 2006

Please leave some feedback after you get your machines. So far, ours are running well beyond our expectations. I did not get much feedback from users here though when I asked about them before we bought them. Although we had little feedback, we had no negative feedback.

These decisions are difficult, you do your best to look at everything and sometimes you still regret a choice. In this instance we have been very happy. If you have any issues, please share them as it will provide leverage with Universal to get it fixed. So far, our relationship has been great and they have listened to our feedback and have been a great partner. These have been great machines. We are very happy with them.

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PWH

#39476

Universal Advantis | 2 February, 2006

Can do - will have it on line in a couple months.

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