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Gel Flex Tooling


RDR

#28913

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

Anybody out there using this new system from speedline? Any feedback?

Thanks Russ

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Rob

#28916

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

Downloaded some brochures and from the looks of it, it looks quite impressive and simple to use. However, given the $7K pricetag, it's out of the reach of small companies like myself.

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RDR

#28917

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

Thanks Rob, $7k, for a bag of silly putty with a magnet! This is supposed to be the same cost as tooling pins and much cheaper than dedicated tooling? I can't remember ever spending 7k on tooling unless I had 20 unique plates made. I wonder how many tooling pins a guy could get for that price?

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#28918

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

The gel looks strangely like the stuff coming out of the rear end of little rubber toy pigs I bought for $1. You squeeze the pig and the gel comes out of it's ass, release the pressure and it goes back in... hours of fun! But seriously, this gel must cost at most a buck a pound. You could make your own by getting those gel insole and cutting them to size and glueing the pieces on magnets. Or just recycle those gel wrist rest that you can place in front of keyboards. Same texture. Don't get me wrong, the idea is good, just the price seems unreasonable.

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Rob

#28926

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

The price was actually $6,372 and it included the following:

AP/UP2000 1011859 KIT,GEL-FLEX,AP/UP2000,SYSTEM The kit includes: quantity 12 1011557 BAR,GEL,ASSY quantity 4 1010934 SUPPORT,EDGE,3.31 quantity 4 1010935 SUPPORT,EDGE,4.31 quantity 4 1010969 SUPPORT,EDGE,1.19 quantity 1 1011552 KIT,CD MANUAL,GEL-FLEX USERS GUIDE quantity 1 1012124 CASE,CARRYING,GEL-FLEX,ASSY This kit also includes: quantity 3 1011525 BRIDGE,SUPPORT BLOCK,GEL,3.5 X 4.0,ASSY quantity 4 1011531 BRIDGE,SUPPORT BLOCK,GEL,1.4 X 3.8,ASSY quantity 5 9061M PIN,TOOLING,AUTO,ASSY

I don't know half the stuff on here but I wish they'd offer single bars pricing so we can just order the amount we want.

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Ken

#28928

Gel Flex Tooling | 3 June, 2004

Now that is creative!

I going to talk to my machinist. I need a bar of aluminum machined to accept 24 pigs (ass up of course). Then I need a "squeezing" mechanism to apply a proportional pressure to the pigs abdomen to make the "ass gel" support the board. when I market this product it will be called "PAG" support (pig ass-gel)!

I wonder if pig ass-gel is esd dissapative?

Thanks for the great laugh.

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#28931

Gel Flex Tooling | 4 June, 2004

Hi This Pig stuff sounds funny, but from my pass experience with what people are buying now days, you will get more orders than you can handle. You can sell some of these people any thing. As long as it is cheap they will buy it, even if it won't work.

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#28954

Gel Flex Tooling | 4 June, 2004

Oh, and $9K to $12K is a good price for a block that raises pins up and down by air, don't forget the tips on the pins too. Its all high priced stuff. Value is the key I guess.

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#28990

Gel Flex Tooling | 7 June, 2004

funny stuff!!!!

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Mark

#28994

Gel Flex Tooling | 7 June, 2004

Im going to try that mouse gel in the machine and see how it goes. LOL

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Charlie

#29046

Gel Flex Tooling | 10 June, 2004

Guy,s For about the same money, Grid-lok offers a fully automatic system that easily installs onto the printers and P&P. It can be set to your board instantly by pressing one button or triggered by the printer to set for each consecutive PCB. They will usually let you try a system at no cost. The product is endorsed by most of the major machine OEM's. There is some info on http://www.grid-lok.com

Later, Charlie

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#29060

Gel Flex Tooling | 11 June, 2004

Is there a way to post pictures here, I wish I could demonstrate the concept with the toy pig...

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#29090

Gel Flex Tooling | 14 June, 2004

Unfortunately, you can't post pictures to the forum. I'll look into adding that feature.

If you can post the picture somewhere else on the Internet you could provide a link to it from the forum.

-Neil

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#29240

Gel Flex Tooling | 24 June, 2004

I am working on my own tooling that has a gel interface for DS PCB's right now, for a lot less $$, it should work for a P&P and a printer with a little modification. I am hoping to get it early next week and try it out. I'll let you how it turns out.

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Ken

#29245

Gel Flex Tooling | 24 June, 2004

I was wondering what Dow Corning has done with all those silicone breast implants?

B or C cup would work nicely (in the stencil printer).

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