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Placement Equipment

#23108

Placement Equipment | 22 January, 2003

My company is getting into smt and am looking for advice on placement equipment. Our largest board is 7" x 13". The smallest parts are 0805, we only have soic so far and our volume is low to mid scale. Who makes a accurate, reliable, versitile, small footprint placement machine.

Thanks Brad Langer

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#23109

Placement Equipment | 22 January, 2003

My company is getting into smt and I am looking for advice on placement equipment. Our largest board is 7" x 13". The smallest parts are 0805, we only have soic so far and our volume is low to mid scale. Who makes a accurate, reliable, versitile, small footprint placement machine.

Thanks Brad Langer

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Jon Fox

#23110

Placement Equipment | 22 January, 2003

Do you have a good SMT technician? If so, you can get some great used equipment for pennies on the dollar. Didn't think I would ever say this, but Mydata or Quad may be a great choice for you.

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#23114

Placement Equipment | 23 January, 2003

hi brad, you can get new reliable eqipment for your needs at very low cost.If you are interested:www.ivastech.com

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MA/NY DDave

#23118

Placement Equipment | 23 January, 2003

Hi

Woah you asked a complex question, and should soon be getting piles of assistance from many of the equipment mfgs sales guys that are on SMTnet.

Poke around SMTnet would be one place I would start.

Also look at some of the World Wide Auctions (garage sales) run by company's like Dan Butcher.

YiE, DDave

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RDR

#23119

Placement Equipment | 23 January, 2003

You may want to look at Samsung CP40. This has been a very good machine for me.

Russ

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#23124

Placement Equipment | 23 January, 2003

Hi Brad, A couple of observations: 1. You are new to SMT. 2. Your requirements can be met by a variety of low end SMT equipment. Regarding point 1, you will be better off buying a machine from the manufacturer unless you hire someone with all around process knowledge who happens to also know the ins and outs of the machine your are buying. This may be two people and is probably not in the budget. When you purchase a new or used machine from the original manufacturer you will recieve all of the support required for startups such as yourself. The purchase of used equipment from other sources can appear to be a money saver at the outset, but you may have to pay the manufacturer a machine registration fee in order to recieve the type of support that only the manufacturer can give. On point 2, the Contact 3 series is an excellent value. We have several variations that can meet your requirements at low cost as well as factory refurbished equipment. Check out our website at http://www.contactsystems.com.

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#23136

Placement Equipment | 24 January, 2003

If your looking for a small footprint at lower cost a Zevetech 575 or Quad 4c should do a good job for you. If your boards get more complicated or you go down to fine pitch, 402's, BGA, you may need to look at a newer technology. We just went through the same search as yourself, and ended up with mydata, but that is a larger footprint.

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Joerg

#23140

Placement Equipment | 24 January, 2003

Please check out this website: http://www.mimot.com MIMOT is building exactly what you are looking for. It will be your decision wheter to buy used or new. Used can be inexpensiv at the begin, but can turn out expensiv in the long run.

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TriGuy

#23151

Placement Equipment | 24 January, 2003

This question is like asking what kind of boat should you buy. Depends on what you do with it....

I would ditto the CP40. Good discrete placer and very reliable. Your PCB Design, Stencil, Reflow Oven and Paste selected are just as critical to your success.

Good Luck

PS. Go with new since you are new, that way you can get some pointers and support. Also, Quad is out of business and Samsung built their machines so you have 3 votes for this platform.

Call and talk to Mike Foster, tell him I said hello

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binns

#23170

Placement Equipment | 27 January, 2003

Just to set the record straight... Samsung did not build all Quad machines. QSA = Quad Samsung America, The QSA-30 machine platforms were manufactured by Samsung, utilizing Quad feeders, other Quad technology and Quad sales and service. Before the QSA-30 project, Quad had a similar agreement with Samsung with the 1000 unit, a mechanical centering machine. All other platfroms QS-100, 2000, IIc, IVc, QSV-1, QSX-1, QSP-2, and the APS models were (and are) manufactured by Quad in Willow Grove, PA. In the later part of Quad's existence they had a similar agreement with Mirae as with Samsung. I understand this in part with other issues may have led to the rather large rift between Quad and Samsung. Also, Quad may be "out of business" but they were purchased by Tyco and still provide sales and service to all SMT models. I currently have a couple of older Quad lines and have had a long experience with the sales and service organizations.

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TN

#23209

Placement Equipment | 31 January, 2003

Many companies used the Fuji CP-4 and CP-6 chip shooters, these are good for the small components like resistors, caps, diodes, transistors and small IC's. If you have BGA, QFP or other larger odd components you will need to go with another type of placement machine.

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