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Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling?

#20940

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 29 July, 2002

Just setting up a new SMT line and have questions on which profiling product to use. So far the two in consideration are Super M.O.L.E. Gold and Slim KIC 2000... Please share any thoughts, experiences you have had with either and your opinion....

Thanx, Todd

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bpan

#20954

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

I currently use the Slim Kic 2000 and really like its results. Just would like to say that I recommend the product. It works well and the software is user friendly.Profiles can be achieved quickly with great results.

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#20957

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

I have used both. The moles both do the same basic functions. Software options are a little different for each.

If you're just looking for basic profiles/oven qualification, either will do a fine job.

If you're wanting more in-depth details, I'd suggest getting a demo copy of each software, and running the same data thru both. See which one gives you the results you want

Phil

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Keith Scivier

#20959

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

Have you looked at Datapaq? Try http://www.datapaq.com

or sales@datapaq.com

Hope this helps keith

PS. you may find that the prediction function is better with Datapaq.

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#20961

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

We currently use the SuperMole and generally speaking it's a nice tool and gives us the information we need.

The software could use some work, though. When you create a file for a new profile, you have to input a "time above" temperature for your profile. When you do that, it applies that temp to EVERY other profile you've ever created, instead of just the new one, for all future runs. Every run on every profile from that point on will be subject to the new temp., unless you create a new dummy file, which is how I work around it. Not fun, and not operator friendly in the least. I didn't discover it until we started building two-sided boards and needed a cure profile.

You might also want to consider the Datapaq. I've never used one, but had one demo'd here and was impressed. Very operator friendly.

Another thing to think about is the ovens you're using and who (which thermal profiler supplier) has developed software to interface with them.

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CJN

#20969

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

Slim KIC would be my choice out of these two vendors. I have worked with several different makes and models and I would say DataPaq was my favorite. But it all depends on your needs and budget. They can all get the job done.

Good luck with your new production line. What pick and place equipment are you using?

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#20975

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 30 July, 2002

MYDATA MY12 for the pick and place

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#20989

Super M.O.L.E or Slim KIC 2000 for oven profiling? | 31 July, 2002

Todd,

Slim KIC 2000 would be my choice. We traded our Gold M.O.L.E for it and are very happy with the performance. The optimization program is great. No more guessing. The only thing I could gripe about is that it sucks up 9V batteries pretty quick. You might want to look into ECD Temprobes. These make profile prep a breeze. No more tape/glue. http://www.saunderstech.com/tp.htm

Good Luck, Gregster

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