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Brian Steelglove

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Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 4 June, 1998

My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. THANKS, BRIAN THE NO TITLE MAN

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BOB

#15577

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 4 June, 1998

| My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. | THANKS, | BRIAN | THE NO TITLE MAN

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BOB

#15576

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 4 June, 1998

| My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. | THANKS, | BRIAN | THE NO TITLE MAN

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Dave F

#15575

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 4 June, 1998

| My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. | THANKS, | BRIAN | THE NO TITLE MAN Brian: DEK and MPM each own 50+% of the world wide screen printer market. Each has a website that you can find information about them. SMTNet "Industry Listings" provide contacts to other suppliers. I can't imagine any printer that will take as long to set-up as the CSMs. Dave F

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Steve Schrader

#15572

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 5 June, 1998

| My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. | THANKS, | BRIAN | THE NO TITLE MAN

We bought a used MPM SPM in your price range and do 3-6 setups per shift. We do not do 12 mil pitch, but have no problems at 20 mil.

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Steve Gregory

#15573

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 5 June, 1998

Hidee Ho Brian! Just like the other Steve, we just bought a SPM too. Our is brand new, and it's a SPM-AV (has vision). The other option we have is a automatic underside stencil cleaner. We're a contract assembler as well, just starting up. We plan to do small lots, and lots of change over too. This printer with vision, can do 12-mil pitch all day long. What I really like about this printer is that it has just about every capability that one of the big buck printers have, you just have to do a few extra steps to do the same thing that is just a push of a button, or a click of the mouse on the fancy ones...I'm not sure, but maybe that's why they call it a semi-automatic printer...(GRIN) Another thing I like about it is that you have so much flexibility to be able to adjust things to print just about any board that's thrown at it, unlike the high dollar printers. If something strange is thrown at those printers, then you have to go out and spend money to have fixtures made, etc., etc. The thing only needs 110-volt power, so you can plug it in the wall, slap some air to it, and be printing solder paste like nobody's business. It also has a adapter so you can do different frames sizes. The normal size is the typical 29" X 29" MPM frame. It can do boards from 2" X 3" up to 20.5" X 18.5". The accuracy with vision is +/- .0008" (20 microns). Another neat thing I like about the vision system is that the control box that comes with the system has ports that I can plug into, get me some video image capture software, a unit like a "Snappy", and I got me a video system that I can take some nice magnified pictures of components, solder joints, and what have you, and save them as files...I can think of a hundred uses for that. Even brand new, with the options that I have, it's still well within your price range...(I should be getting a commision from MPM for this, GRIN) -Steve Gregory-

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Scott McKee

#15574

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 13 June, 1998

| Hidee Ho Brian! | Just like the other Steve, we just bought a SPM too. Our is brand new, and it's a SPM-AV (has vision). The other option we have is a automatic underside stencil cleaner. | We're a contract assembler as well, just starting up. We plan to do small lots, and lots of change over too. This printer with vision, can do 12-mil pitch all day long. | What I really like about this printer is that it has just about every capability that one of the big buck printers have, you just have to do a few extra steps to do the same thing that is just a push of a button, or a click of the mouse on the fancy ones...I'm not sure, but maybe that's why they call it a semi-automatic printer...(GRIN) | Another thing I like about it is that you have so much flexibility to be able to adjust things to print just about any board that's thrown at it, unlike the high dollar printers. If something strange is thrown at those printers, then you have to go out and spend money to have fixtures made, etc., etc. | The thing only needs 110-volt power, so you can plug it in the wall, slap some air to it, and be printing solder paste like nobody's business. It also has a adapter so you can do different frames sizes. The normal size is the typical 29" X 29" MPM frame. It can do boards from 2" X 3" up to 20.5" X 18.5". The accuracy with vision is +/- .0008" (20 microns). | Another neat thing I like about the vision system is that the control box that comes with the system has ports that I can plug into, get me some video image capture software, a unit like a "Snappy", and I got me a video system that I can take some nice magnified pictures of components, solder joints, and what have you, and save them as files...I can think of a hundred uses for that. | Even brand new, with the options that I have, it's still well within your price range...(I should be getting a commision from MPM for this, GRIN) | -Steve Gregory- I have the same MPM SPM with Vision and a bottom side cleaner. The best for the price!!!!!!! If you're doing 12 mill you NEED both features. Once you buy one, you'll lament about it like we do! The only choice.... Scott McKee

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doug clement

#15578

Re: Who's Who's in Screen Printers for Contract Manufactuers | 1 February, 1999

| | My company recently purchased 3 new Phillips CSM machines and is interested in buying a Screen Printer. The one problem we have is that we have to change setups three to four times a day. Due to the small runs of one type of boards that we do. My question is can anyone give me a suggestion on a semi automatic screen printer in the 20K to 50K range. The one printer I had looked into was the PrinTEK II by Transition Automation. I would love to get a DEK 260 though. My company says they cost to much. Please give me some suggestions. Technical data: The finest pitch we will do is 12mil with a frame range from 12*12 TO 20*20. | | THANKS, | | BRIAN | | THE NO TITLE MAN | Brian: DEK and MPM each own 50+% of the world wide screen printer market. Each has a website that you can find information about them. SMTNet "Industry Listings" provide contacts to other suppliers. I can't imagine any printer that will take as long to set-up as the CSMs. Dave F

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