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Thermal Profilers

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#53396

Thermal Profilers | 28 January, 2008

New to thermal profiling (leaded and lead free), and my boss wants me to search for a better profiler. Currently our model has three ports for thermal couple inputs.

We are established in our noraml process but we are relatively new to incorperate medium/large BGAs on our product.

We would like to get a new profiler with four couplers due to the added BGAs.

#1. Is that an accurate response to our situation and should we look into getting a profiler with five input options.

#2. Any suggestions on an afforadable 4 lead or 5 lead thermal profilers for lead and lead-free reflow ovens?

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#53397

Thermal Profilers | 28 January, 2008

KIC Thermal

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#53398

Thermal Profilers | 28 January, 2008

I have used the ECD MOLE and had no complaints.

I also checked out a Datapaq at one time and really liked the software but it was a little on the spendy side.

ECD provides free upgrades to their software which does provide some fairly helpful predition capability.

Currently I use the three inputs on the oven. Not my favorite system by a long shot.

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#53399

Thermal Profilers | 28 January, 2008

We use a Datapaq 9000, 6 inputs. Veasy to use and configure.

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#53410

Thermal Profilers | 29 January, 2008

Hello, we use DataPAQ 6 slots - but after tech guys finally killed their profiler on wave its theirs now

last year we used SolderStar neptune, 3-9 slots, but it is too easy to destroy it (4 times in repair...)

so finally I started to use SlimKIC 2000 - 9 slots, and this is what I like now (both hardware & software) :))

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#53414

Thermal Profilers | 29 January, 2008

I agree with Idumont.....KIC works great for me, it has 9 inputs, and is pretty good at predicting the direction that you may need to tweak your profile, the only thing is I think that these untis ( slim kic 2000) are fairly spendy. not sure though, they purchased this unit before I came to work here. I have heard good things about MOLE as well, the company that I worked at before used mole, and at both companies we have succesfully done thermal profiling on BGA boards. GOOD LUCK. Wayne

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#53428

Thermal Profilers | 29 January, 2008

We have a Kic 2000 9 channel. The options for this unit were 9 or 12. I do not remember what we paid for it but the Kic Navigator and its prediction capabilities really reduce required profile time.

I have also used Datapak and Mole but not for years. Both are good units. I think the Kic has them in the prediction arena.

My $.02

Good Luck

Chris

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#53716

Thermal Profilers | 19 February, 2008

Check out http://www.solderstar.com

They have 4 , 6 , 9 or 12 channel products. Software is user friendly and contains predefined specs. for solder paste & reflow ovens. Makes setup quick & easy, also has simulation tools to quickly optimize profiles.

4 channel LITE system takes some beating for value and has many users all around the world,

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#53717

Thermal Profilers | 19 February, 2008

Two thumbs up for KIC. Has been a great unit for the money. Kic explorer has 3 thermo couples in one nice little connector. The unit will do 12 TC's.

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#53721

Thermal Profilers | 20 February, 2008

Just heard yesterday from my KIC rep that they have a product called KIC vision now. Sits in your oven and does the profiling automatically whenever you tell it to. They also have one called KIC 24/7 which can profile (and assign a PWI) to each board that passes through the oven. Hows that for traceability?

No I don't get kickbacks from them!

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#53727

Thermal Profilers | 20 February, 2008

Having been around the block, an old lead head from way back, I've used MOLE, KIC,and Datapaq. They all do the same thing, but I'd have to give the edge to KIC. 9 ports and automatic wave detection. Also, KIC2000 is as user friendly as you can get...practically holds your hand through the process.

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