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Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product?

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Mats

#44652

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 21 October, 2006

"Surface Mount Techniques has approximately 98 percent of the world market share of large Panel Stencil Printers".

It sounds a little bit strange to me, especially since I work for one of the companys listed in their advertisement and it is definitely Not one of our favourite brand that we use. I think there is (one) in a storage somewhere.

This raises another question: How big can a PCB be before it is impossible to place the components with a regular SMT-placement machine + a standard reflow oven + conveyors? / http://www.smtprinters.com/largest.html

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#44656

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 22 October, 2006

Fuji has the NP Series machine that is capable of 23" x 27" boards. I know Mydata can also run large boards, but I don't have the specs.

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Steve

#44657

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 23 October, 2006

I know Mydata has machines that have a 44" X 32" placement area, reflowing something that big is another story. Most reflow ovens I know of have a maximum conveyor width of 20", although Heller ovens can go 23.5" wide. If you're into Vapor Phase soldering, RD Technical Services has a batch vapor phase unit, the RD3, that can do 24" X 24".

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#44658

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 23 October, 2006

> "Surface Mount Techniques has approximately 98 > percent of the world market share of large Panel > Stencil Printers". > > It sounds a little bit > strange to me, especially since I work for one of > the companys listed in their advertisement and it > is definitely Not one of our favourite brand that > we use. I think there is (one) in a storage > somewhere. > > This raises another question: How > big can a PCB be before it is impossible to place > the components with a regular SMT-placement > machine + a standard reflow oven + > conveyors? / _a class=roll > href="http://www.smtprinters.com/largest.html" > target="_blank"_http://www.smtprinters.com/largest > .html_/a_

RECON.INC HAS A SURFACE MOUNT TECHNIQUES PRESENTLY IN STOCK.

SEE OUR WEBSITE WWW.RECONSALES.COM , AND POSTING THIS WEBSITE.

LONG ESTABLISHED COMPANY WITH A QUALITY PRODUCT.

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#44659

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 23 October, 2006

Nothing worse than a salesman that yells at you!

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#44660

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 23 October, 2006

And also fails to mention that SMTechniques wants $2500 to register, just to order spares.

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#44661

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 23 October, 2006

No doubt. Now they post and wait an hour and then advertise. Everyone should answer "We had one of their stencil printers and it was the worst."

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#44686

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 24 October, 2006

Well super, super, sorry I had cap locks on - no yelling intended. Let's keep this a technical forum.

Many manufacturers charge to register their equipment prior to selling parts or providing service. Agree or dis-agree with this practice it is a reality. This has no bearing on the quality of the product only their business decision process. I have seen these printers in many facilities over the years and the input I have received has been positive. Obviously, they are not cutting edge equipment, but these units have their place in process applications that fit.

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#44697

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 25 October, 2006

"Many manufacturers charge to register their equipment prior to selling parts or providing service."

True, but in most cases those fees might actually net something you can't get somewhere else, like some technical expertise. C'mon, it's not like these things take a rocket scientist to figure out.

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RDR

#44702

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 25 October, 2006

Bottom line is, If you have to pay a fee to buy spare parts then the company is not worth doing business with. They obviously have no intention of becoming a partner only someone to take your money at every opportunity.

Lets keep this a technical forum? hahaha now who put the sales pitch in here?

Russ

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#44730

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 26 October, 2006

Just curious, is Surface Mount Techniques still in business. I couldn't find any contact information for them. Sue

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#44751

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 28 October, 2006

Hi,

I totally agree. If I purchased a machine, and a company wanted me to pay some kind of fee just to be able to purchase parts, I would go nuts. What a terrible policy.

I think, and this is becoming more common, that companies are becoming so self centered, that they completely forget about the customer, and instead focus on themselves. It's actually quite hard to get everyone in a company to be customer focused, and it's more than answering the phone with a happy voice.

It's about making every decision based on what a customer would prefer, and not what would extract more cash out of them. I know this goes against modern business thinking, but it's done us well, and I think there is even a lot more we can do.

This kind of thing really gets me going, and that's one company that won't ever get in our door.

Regards,

Grant

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#44752

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 28 October, 2006

Haha, I have to totally agree with the prior posting! I think it is somewhat strange sometimes when a salesman think it is ok to "black list" their competitors! We had a sales guy from a "company I prefer not to mention by name, but obviously You all now who their are" and this poor sales guy was doing the very worst sales approach: instead of talking about what he was trying to sell, he start talking about how bad the competitors was. I just listening and did not say anything until the sales speach was over. Then I had to ask him of how bad is his company was doing and if he want to jump to one of their competitors. Haha, You should have been there, This poor sales-guy didn't had a clue of how to treat potentiell customers. Haha, he even got into a polemic with us. Haha. Just another story for you to tell in front of the fire place in a cold winter night. /Sincerly

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#44764

Look what I found - is this stencil printer a known product? | 30 October, 2006

Forgive him, it's an election year. ;)

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