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Screen Printers

Ran

#31142

Screen Printers | 29 October, 2004

Hello Everybody, I am looking for screen printers and would like to know , what options do i have? I did some research on manufacturer's and it seems that DEK,MPM and EKRA are the available options for me. what criteria i should look for before slelcting a proper stencil printer.I am also looking one for China facility. Thanks RN

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Joe_B-SMT

#31146

Screen Printers | 29 October, 2004

Do a little bit of digging in the following areas:

- Service/Support in China; How good or how bad is it? - Ease of use; can the operators harness all the features? or will you be baby-sitting them? - Access to parts/spares pricing...follows under the above service/support in China, but these are key. - Do your "due dilligence", especially if you go off the list of printer companies you mentioned, if it is a local knock-off house in China, they will likely cut and run when trouble comes with "low-priced" equipment. - Be agresssive in your questioning PRE-SALE, if you forget to ask a question before hand it may be too late. After the sale, then your head is on the block!

I used to do equipment buy-offs for a stencil printer manufacturer here in US. Best way to get to details is create a buy-off list (same for all the printer companies), I suggest you see what they might suggest as "buy-off list" then add your own areas to verify machine/Customer support/reliability etc...use your head, proactively and you'll do just fine.

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Jason Robotham - Tekmart

#31147

Screen Printers | 29 October, 2004

Hi Ran,

Have you considered 2nd hand screen printers? We are an SMT equipment re-seller but also operate a subsidary CM factory in SuZhou, China . We use Dek 265 LT and MPM AP screen printers in our SuZhou factory and have the following in stock for re-sale;

- Dek 265 GS - Dek 288 - MPM AP/A - MPM UP 3000 - MPM UP 2000 - MPM ULTRAFlex 3000 - Ekra E1

Please send me an e-mail as we can help you identify the best 2nd hand equipment solution, support and service for your screen printer requirements.

Regards, Jason@tekmart.com

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Joe_B-SMT

#31148

Screen Printers | 29 October, 2004

Forgot details:

Use a sample product that you will be running in production. Let each Equipment vendor run a test to meet your requirements. Often with each of these machines (MPM/DEK/EKRA) the key machine features are:

-2D Inspection (for minimizing solder print defect) if you have very fast cycle time (under 10 seconds) then buy a seperate unit, a printer should be prinitng, NOT inspecting.

-Work-Holder/Special tooling; Very thin boards require fixturing to ensure proper printing. Also very large or small boards may also need special fixtures to ensure proper printing. Board edge clearance is an issue. Again the best way to see if each printer will work is take "worst case scenario" and see which machine works best.

- Automatic stencil cleaning. A must for high volume production.

- Offline programming (optional)

- An "enclosed print head" (Like MPM Rheometric/ or DEK Proflow CAN be helpful, but use care to check that your paste (or your customer's paste) works with these units, some pastes do not work well and may cause more problems in a HiMix/ low volume type of production line. Again run tests with each machine before-hand.

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Jesse Mullen

#37257

Screen Printers | 21 October, 2005

Hi, i was just browsing the net i seen your post. I offer laser transfer machines that can transfer full color on just about any type of material. For more info go to http//ia.local.yahoo.biz/fullcolorgraphics also you can e-mail me, i mainly do production my self, i am leaning into selling the equiptment. With the products i have i can do a %100 cotton 6.1 oz. t-shirt full color design front and back full image for $2.21, this includes t-shirts also, it is a laser transfer, not suplimation or ink jet. I encourage you to atleast check it all out, i changed from screen printing to this for that reason, and being able to put 100 differnt colors on a t'shirt with out having to charge buy color has really done well for my business. My e-mail is jessemullen1@msn.com

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Rob

#37261

Screen Printers | 21 October, 2005

Hi Jessie,

Wrong market - we print solder (or glue) onto boards in 3D, then place components into it, then put it through a very hot oven, for it to liquify, then solidify, fixing the components to the board.

Good luck with your venture,

Rob.

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