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Floating part at wave.

Charlie

#3080

Floating part at wave. | 8 September, 2000

Can any one tell me where to get sand bags used to hold parts down at wave?

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Erv

#3081

Re: Floating part at wave. | 8 September, 2000

We do one of two things here; 1. We have cut up a bar of solder to different lengths, wieghts, etc. and place them on top of the offendinding floater, or 2. On selective wave pallets we will build a jig/clamp to hold down the part.

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Chris May

#3082

Re: Floating part at wave. | 11 September, 2000

Charlie,

Check:

a)That your wave is not too high/powerful as this will push up components due to force exerted by mass of solder b)That your conveyor is set at optimimu height so that a) is not required. If conveyor is too high, then the wave will need to be higher than required to reach the board. c)That your wave is not too low so that leads "foul" on the entrance of solder bath.

You could always "cut & clinch" components. Auto insertion does this but you can by manual tools. Insert components, flip over jig and then cut & clench with siad hand-tool.

Hope this helps,

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None...........it's a hardware problem.

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Only one. But the lightbulb has got to REALLY want to change.

Regards,

Chris May

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#3083

Re: Floating part at wave. | 11 September, 2000

Charlie: What takes longer? 1 Forming component leads to prevent lifting 2 Placing a bag of pellets on the board, waving the board, taking the bag off the board, straightening the components, returning the bag to the front of the wave, etc, etc

Good luck

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Mike F

#3084

Re: Floating part at wave. | 12 September, 2000

In general I agree with Dave and Chris, but some parts have leads that can't be clinched (connectors, some header sticks, etc.). If the problem part has not been a floater in the past, then check the lead finish and your flux application. A bad finish will not take solder as well and will tend to float up on top of the solder. Your flux is supposed to prevent this, but it can only do so much and you have to make sure it's being applied to these parts.

Here are a couple of things to keep in mind, if you still want to use weights: 1) Use the lightest weight that will do the job. Too much could cause the board to bow downward, with a variety of results, none of them good. 2) You can stuff the bags with anything that can take the heat exposure, BB's, sand, whatever. It's the cloth you have to keep an eye on. I don't recommend sand as it will work through the cloth too easily. 3) The area under the bag will not get the full exposure to your preheat if you have topside preheaters. If this is a problem, consider getting small metal weights machined to fit on the problem part.

By far, the preferred solution is to make sure you're getting parts with a good lead finish, and not have to worry about holding the part down. Your inspectors will have to pay more attention to the topside solder on thes parts, as you may not get much flow of solder up through the pth if the lead has a bad finish.

Good luck, Mike F.

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