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Hi, Between Vitronics Soltec & Heller which reflow oven wou... - Feb 01, 2017 by Syed Shahrat  

Alrighty then. ... - Apr 07, 2017 by Sr.Tech  

#76986

Reflow Oven Brand | 1 February, 2017

Hi, Between Vitronics Soltec & Heller which reflow oven would be be better for mobile phone production?? Can anyone give me the answer with technical reason. Thanks

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#77002

Reflow Oven Brand | 1 February, 2017

It is hard without specifying the models and the options on them. These are two of the top manufacturers out there, but there are even better, so if you are going to make a mass production assemblies, you should make a much bigger research.

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#77006

Reflow Oven Brand | 1 February, 2017

Heller would be the choice here as they have over 1000 ovens installed around the world doing smartphone soldering. Something like 8 million phones a week are processed on Heller ovens at all the large phone manufactures. You can trust that they have done their homework on process repeatability and lowest cost of ownership.

I have seen so many installations and most with numerous ovens in operation.

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#77009

Reflow Oven Brand | 2 February, 2017

We have been using Vitronics for over 20 years with very few problems. I imagine Heller is just as good, I would rather you talk to your Solder provider Rep to find out about any add-ons you need for your specific processes. Along with that info and a good Profiler almost any oven on the market is probably good. We also use Juki and Omniflo. All are quite good. We use a KIC profiler which is very easy to setup our oven profiles. Auto rail width and nitrogen are almost required in today's market.

Good Luck

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#77013

Reflow Oven Brand | 2 February, 2017

Evtimov: What additional suppliers should Syed Shahrat consider?

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#77020

Reflow Oven Brand | 3 February, 2017

DaveF: I personally like BTU for example. There are some German brands that are pretty good too like - SMT. Currently have Vitronics - it is good. Used to have Hellers - never been happy with the quality. Market keeps developing, so if it was me, I would research deeper- but that is just me. Now I read about vacuum soldering, there are vapor phase machines that keep improving.....

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Rob

#77021

Reflow Oven Brand | 3 February, 2017

To be fair, making lots of the same PCBAs of the same relatively low thermal mass is not particulary challenging for any of the major manufacturers if you have enough heating and cooling zones.

Probably key for you would be local support for service, spares and training as in volume production downtime is a killer. Also features like flux collection, soft start up power consumption, centre rail support and with adjustment restrictions should be of consideration.

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#77031

Reflow Oven Brand | 3 February, 2017

We have 6 Vitronics Soltec ovens. 4 XPM 820's, an XPM 1240, and an XPM3. All of them are great, but we're very impressed with the XPM3, you can't go wrong.

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#77038

Reflow Oven Brand | 5 February, 2017

I would look at Rehm Thermal Systems, they are the leaders in Reflow and offer systems at same pricing points as XPM and Heller now with VXC series ( uses same tech as there top end VXS/VXP range...

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#77040

Reflow Oven Brand | 5 February, 2017

Thanks for ur good advice. I do have a Tamura, one JT, 3rd one I want to buy Heller or Vitronic. Using KIC also for profiling.

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#77041

Reflow Oven Brand | 5 February, 2017

Other than this 2 brand may be JT or Tamura. As I am already using both of this machine.

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#77281

Reflow Oven Brand | 18 March, 2017

Of course D Levanthal you would say this ... considering you are the NY Manufacturer's Rep, a salesman for Heller in the New York area!

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#77282

Reflow Oven Brand | 19 March, 2017

1. Rehm Thermal Systems (Germany) 2. BTU (USA) ,Ersa (Germany) , SMT (germany) 3. Vitronics (USA) , Speedline (USA),Tamara (Japan) 4. Heller (USA), JT(China)

This is how I would rate the main brand reflow's others may disagree.

They all reflow , but you pasy for features, quality of build and what the on going costs are.

Is like buying car , all get you to church on Sundays, but some use less petrol, require less maintenance , more available etc etc

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#77284

Reflow Oven Brand | 20 March, 2017

@ Westshoredesign:

Go take the top covers off your XPM's. Tell me if you see flux residue on the blower motors and the surrounding area. If you see this, grab ahold of the blower motor and rock it back and fourth. It is moves, the seals are melted out of the blower mounting holes and the plenum is leaking. In addition there are carbon washers that wear out in between the blower motor and top of the plenum. Replacing them is a major job. Bad design, and not sure if it was carried over to the XPM3's.

We currently have XPM's and Heller's. The Hellers use less energy, leak less heat into the shop and are more maint. friendly in my opinion.

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#77312

Reflow Oven Brand | 24 March, 2017

Out of curiosity, what get JT on the list compared to other Chinese brands? e.g Folungwin Chuxin (Seems to be sold unbranded by quite a few) Dektec

Or a Korean one like TSM .

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#77313

Reflow Oven Brand | 24 March, 2017

JT was in my list as it has a big heating zone compared to any other reflows in the market. But recently I am facing some small issues in the software of my existing JT machine. Sometimes after model change SP heating values and the conveyor speeds are getting changed automatically. Otherwise it is a good machine.

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#77366

Reflow Oven Brand | 7 April, 2017

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#77367

Reflow Oven Brand | 7 April, 2017

Alrighty then.

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#77368

Reflow Oven Brand | 7 April, 2017

This is some deep s***t here

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