Mydata vs Siplace

Mydata machines are great for large back planes close to 23" wide. The foot print of the Mydata machines are concerning- being a "T" design it sacrifices floor space. Also, Mydata is not considered to be in the same classification (my opinion) of equipment. Siemens is geared for high range/ high reliability where Mydata is more for the medium range companies.

What is the thought process for changing? and why Mydata? Cal

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Well Joe , I have work with Mydata for 3 years and 2 years for Siplace ,,, both they have great qualities different from eachother . One of the biggest different that I can said is the software of Mydata , is so much user friendly you can do thing right on the spots ( changes , Offset , etc) while Siplace you hace to finish the board , change and then download the program again ,we just upgrade our software but is the same thing really nothing like Mydata but Siplace in my opinion is more faster , use less room and the placement is the same as Mydata from the smaller part 0201 to any BGA . It depends what kind of company you are running , and what do you need . In my final opinio I will like to have a Siplace with Mydata software , I hope this help you for your desicion for whatever machine ivan

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We only have Mydata's where I work. The reason we chose Mydata is because we are low volume high mix, and our PCB's tend to be a bit larger, 12" X 18". Because of the high mix environment the Mydata fit better than others. Changeover is easier, and the mix of components on one machine is higher. Besides the fact that the software is easy to use.

They have been extremely reliable, and if we do have a problem, the service is good.

Good luck in your research.

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We have had Mydata for eight years and Siplace for six. We have found that the Siemens is much more accurate and faster than the Mydata (about four times quicker). Although the Mydata is more friendly regarding the software, if the upfront preparatory work is done correctly you can introduce new products just as quickly as on a Mydata.

Our main criticism of Mydata is that although their machines have moved on with regard to the technology of components that can be placed, their feeders do leave an awful lot to be desired. They are still based on a ten year old design. The feeders are not particularly accurate and cannot step quick enough. Having too many reels in the 8mm 0402 feeders causes the magazine to stop working. The large feeders are filled with plastic teeth and break easily. Large tapes fall off the cogs due to bad design of tape guide (acknowledged by Mydata). The new Agilis feeder appears to be a direct rip off of an old Nitto feeder, which is still based on a mechanical step, rather than a quick accurate servo stepper.

Machine criticisms � On a Mydata you cannot test any components off line � ie vision checks. The only way you can see if your package is correct is to try and place it onto a board. Any error messages which appear to tell you why the component won�t pass vision is vague and unclear as to what needs rectifying.

That said both machines are very reliable, but the build quality of a Mydata does seem to be shamed by German engineering. The Mydata looks like it�s been built using elastic bands and cable ties rather than milled out of big metal blocks.

On the whole each machine has its own market, however, the poor state and little/no advancement on the feeders would seriously make us think about buying a Mydata again.

Ian

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If the reason you are looking into Mydata is for low quantities and higher changeover. I would look into their main competitor(s) also. I am a Quad (tyco) user and of course, I would suggest for you to look into the "Tyco" Q-series. There are none of those feeder-type isses, the footprint is more in line for "standard" machines, the changeover is quick,easy, and efficient. I run them in a smaller contract-type environment. My two cents, good luck.

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