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MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error

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We have MY9 - when it changes hydra tooltips - most of the t... - Mar 28, 2024 by Wade Arral

From the error message, might have to do with the "Z&qu... - Mar 28, 2024 by Thomas

In calibration menu - I see coarse measurement of z unit off... - Mar 28, 2024 by Wade Arral

Since you only saying it's the hydra error, then only run th... - Mar 28, 2024 by Thomas

For the hydra camera z-level - there is short section in man... - Mar 28, 2024 by Wade Arral

It's been long time, me memories are fading away. If I reme... - Mar 28, 2024 by Thomas

The tapping noise is what you hear when Hydra taps each tool... - Mar 28, 2024 by AlexV

Hi all - my problem is a bit worse now - I can get all hydra... - Apr 02, 2024 by Wade Arral

I believe you need one of this https://www.pfipartsus.com/pr... - Apr 02, 2024 by Thomas

You'll need the specific Mydata part. It has some specific d... - Apr 02, 2024 by MistrThou

Yes very good - thank you, I'm getting the specific hydra to... - Apr 02, 2024 by Wade Arral

Nice. BTW, I found a pic online. https://www.flasonsmt.com/... - Apr 02, 2024 by MistrThou

Hello all - so I got in the calibrate plate for hydra tool o... - Apr 08, 2024 by Wade Arral

To me, it seems like there are slightly XY offset. Hydra mig... - Apr 08, 2024 by Thomas

The error is: MOT-Command/205: Motor speed out of control Mo... - Apr 08, 2024 by MistrThou

Hi all - all good info thanks, so my indicator levels are a ... - Apr 08, 2024 by Wade Arral

I found a 0.9mm hex tool - but if I adjust the indicators &q... - Apr 08, 2024 by Wade Arral

We had a Mycronic tech in adjusting rings to get us within s... - Apr 08, 2024 by MistrThou

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

We have MY9 - when it changes hydra tooltips - most of the time it makes a small "hitting" type noise - with error F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA Z/205 - however you can just hit continue and it will always change the tools and finish the board - I've un-installed and re-installed the hydra bank, applied the grease - cleaned - replaced o-rings on hydra tubes - don't know why it keeps having this error yet I can continue and it still changes the tooltips anyway. Any ideas anyone?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

From the error message, might have to do with the "Z"-axis. You didn't mention you redo the calibration or not, then you should run that too. My guess would be "Z reading maybe slightly off". BTW, last time I work with those Mydata machine were back in 2007. Therefore, I could only give you tips what to check for. Hope that helps.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

In calibration menu - I see coarse measurement of z unit offset, z-unit offset, measure hydra camera z level, coarse adjust hydra tool offsets, and measure hydra tool lengths 1 - 8 - would it be any of these that I should run?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

Since you only saying it's the hydra error, then only run the hydra calibrations. Sometime the calibration can end up causing more issue if not run it correctly. I would do the hydra camera Z level (1st). If it fixes the issue then you no need to do more than you need. If problem still exist then follow the orders as you listed.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

For the hydra camera z-level - there is short section in manual - mentions using metal ruler to cover the camera - but for the other cal steps - I see nothing in the manuals for instructions - so I don't know if any special jigs are needed? I don't have any cal jigs - so I don't want to start a cal procedure if I need a jig for it - do re recall if the hydra tool coarse offset and length etc cals need any jigs or not?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

It's been long time, me memories are fading away. If I remember correctly, you would need small flat surface plate or something to cover up the "linescan" hydra camera, so from the reflections value then it can calculates the actual height "lowest" point of the "Z". I do recall that you might be right about the cal jig is needed for hydra tool coarse offset.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 28 March, 2024

The tapping noise is what you hear when Hydra taps each tool on the tool bank to make sure the tips are seated well. The error is a Z-motor problem. The gear is at the top of the Hydra and needs grease. Have you cleaned the old grease and applied new grease in that spot?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 2 April, 2024

Hi all - my problem is a bit worse now - I can get all hydra tests to pass in extended service, except indicator levels at current 7 a bit high past 190 limit at ~210-220 - other than that hydra bank re-installs OK - but still it makes a bad hitting noise when it attempts to grab the tips - the hitting noise is louder now after HZ Cogplay and etc adjustments in extended service done... I thought that hydra tool offset was issue and tried to do that - course adjust went OK - but now need to do each tip and wants "place calibration component 8x8mm on the Y wagon" - yeah I don't have one of those - is there any substitute? Like a 8mm x 8mm square part?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 2 April, 2024

I believe you need one of this https://www.pfipartsus.com/products/mydata-l-019-0633-1

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 2 April, 2024

You'll need the specific Mydata part. It has some specific dots and square printed on it. It should be in a box with other calibration parts, stuff which we do at least every 6 months. I attached an internet picture of the box that contains the different calibration plates. You'll need to install the large calibration plate.

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MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 2 April, 2024

Yes very good - thank you, I'm getting the specific hydra tool offset jig from PFI Florida for $100 - and MyData has already quoted me all the other parts such as in that box there - so I'll get some of these in and continue my work. Thanks all!

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 2 April, 2024

Nice. BTW, I found a pic online. https://www.flasonsmt.com/Uploads/6528ca4e9c5b7.jpg I'm surprised it doesnt have that stuff underneath the machine behind the large panels. Thats where we kept ours.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

Hello all - so I got in the calibrate plate for hydra tool offsets - it completed the calibration - I then installed the first row of white tips with the menu - and the machine still does same thing it puts the tips away but makes a hitting type noise, the hydra tools stick inside the bank, and you have to open the hood and push the hydra up by hand to get it unstuck from the bank.. it says failed to leave tool also but the tools do get left in the bank - so if I calibrate hydra tubes positions - and it still does this - then what is hitting on what and what calibration is needed to fix it?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

To me, it seems like there are slightly XY offset. Hydra might be able to pick up the tips, but not all the way securely attached to the hydra tubes. So, when the tips put back are not fully seated, which causing the tool stick inside the bank. You would need redo the full whole hydra calibration steps, in correct order. You might want to check your hydra tubes too; (pull it out) check if they are bent.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

The error is: MOT-Command/205: Motor speed out of control Motor speed deviates from expected speed. – Problem with power supply, motor current too low. – Mechanical problem, friction too high or tool stuck in Z.

I'd be looking at excessive friction maybe at the bottom of it's travel. I believe there's a friction test to run in the service-x menu. I'd also try and see if taking slow motion video from a phone right when it fails is possible. Often that shows issues we can't see with a naked eye. Shining a flashlight while recording greatly helps. Barring anything else, it may be a failing hydra-z motor.

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

Hi all - all good info thanks, so my indicator levels are a bit off which I knew - but I didn't realize that might be the source of this problem - after speaking with PFI and realizing the next step is to get the indicator levels to the 190 range (many at 215-220 now) - I have to buy the 0.9mm hex tool which I don't have one - should be here tomorrow from McMaster, and I'll adjust the black indicators to attempt to get ~190 and try things again!

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

I found a 0.9mm hex tool - but if I adjust the indicators "all the way up" on the shaft I get all current ranges at 255 (so obviously too high on the shaft) but if I place it anywhere else on the shaft (slightly down from top, or all the way down as far as it will go) no matter where it is, the readings are still above 210... does this indicate something else needs to be replaced which is why I cannot achieve the ~170-180 range needed?

MyData F-MOT MOVESLOWMOVE HYDRA error | 8 April, 2024

We had a Mycronic tech in adjusting rings to get us within spec. He was saying the emitter/receiver board at the top and the tubes themselves can go bad. Between that and having weak latches, we're looking at a refurbished unit. But we're rocking a My100, which is similar platform enough to the My200's, so we can more easliy still get parts.

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